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Old Feb 08, 2008, 02:58 PM // 14:58   #1
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Default Are any elite skills better than an avatar?

I'm trying to flesh out a new build and I'm wondering if there are any elite skills better than an avatar (PvE)?

I'm currently using;

Scythe - 16
Earth - 8
Mysticism - 12

Wild Blow
Mystic Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Mystic Regen
Heart of Fury
Zealous Renewal
Avatar of Melandru
Eternal Aura


Thing is, I don't really use AoM very much... so I'm thinking I might be better off replacing it with something else that causes alot of damage as it would free up two slots (AoM and Eternal Aura).

Any thoughts?
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11   #2
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wounding strike!
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:13 PM // 15:13   #3
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Wounding Strike, Reaper's Sweep, Ebon Dust Aura are all good, but really, skills are only good depending on what you want to use them for.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15   #4
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First, your build needs more [skill=text]wearying strike[/skill].

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if there are any elite skills better than an avatar (PvE)?
Naaw, not really. Nothing quite compares to deal 100+ damage a swing with Lyssa, or simply being immortal and spamming Eviscerate as Mel.

Reaper's/Wounding can be fun, but fail to match the sheer raw damage potential of Lyssa, and IMO can't compare to using Wearying on Mel.

The only elites that do something that Lys/Mel don't do better and more reliably is [skill=text]ebon dust aura[/skill]... and [skill=text]avatar of dwayna[/skill], though the areas where this really shines are few and far between.
Every other elite I'd only bother with if I was bored of the two avatars.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #5
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If you find yourself lacking the damage department when using Melandru in PvE, bring Eviscerate, as Stormlord says (Wearying Strike), or try using Lyssa instead.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18   #6
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You don't really use Avatar of Melandru very much because you've inexplicably dropped the key skill on a tree's bar, Wearying Strike. Drop Mystic Regeneration for it.

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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:29 PM // 15:29   #7
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I had Wearying Strike, but I dropped it do to not using Melandru that often.

I'm off to Sunward Marches to track down Reaper's Sweep....
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42   #8
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[card]Vow Of Strength[/card] + IAS + Vow Of Holy Might = serious damage.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47   #9
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Grenths Grasp, only if you use it with an ebong weapon

I have to say that I am quite fond of VOS, it reduces the havoc mesmers and necros and play on me
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:50 PM // 15:50   #10
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There are plenty of good elites: Reapers, wounding, EDA, vow of strength is ok. But as others have said, Avatars (namely lyssa/mel) beat all of those.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52   #11
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[card]Vow Of Strength[/card] + IAS + Vow Of Holy Might = serious damage.
qft thats the combo i run in PVE and let me tell you, easily pulling 200+ dmg hits with no effort is quite nice.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:55 PM // 15:55   #12
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That Aura of Holy Might sounds good. I never even knew about it until I started reading this forum a few hours ago.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56   #13
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I freaked when I first saw the tree- barks for boobs is not what I call beautiful... Not to mention that in PVE (particularly in the harder places) you might expect some dp, which can cause Melandru to become redundant.

Of course if you prudently follow the advice Anet gives (glorious Anet...) one build may work exceptionally well one place and may not work at all in another. So I guess Avatars should be juggled with other elites, at least to just spice things up and not give you a droll experience of 1, 2, 3, click, click, run back, 1,2,3 gg, /resign.
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Not to mention that in PVE (particularly in the harder places) you might expect some dp, which can cause Melandru to become redundant.
On the contrary, the health increment is all the more...not-redundant...in terms of DP, as the bonus is not affected by DP at all.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #15
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On the contrary, the health increment is all the more...not-redundant...in terms of DP, as the bonus is not affected by DP at all.
I think he means once you're DP drops your energy below 25 you're pretty much SOL.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #16
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I implied that casting it would be the problem as with DP ur energy can decrease to a point where u can no longer cast wood.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05   #17
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Wounding Strike, Reaper's Sweep, Ebon Dust Aura are all good, but really, skills are only good depending on what you want to use them for.
Wounding strike is good with a conjure.
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10   #18
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qft thats the combo i run in PVE and let me tell you, easily pulling 200+ dmg hits with no effort is quite nice.
i love that combo too, fun stuff
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07   #19
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What's the fastest way to raise 100,000 luxon faction (despite owning it, I've never actually played in Factions, or done much PvP)?
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Old Feb 08, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18   #20
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I implied that casting it would be the problem as with DP ur energy can decrease to a point where u can no longer cast wood.
Bring a staff...
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